the stand. he still has not cross examined any of them. nbc's mark potter is outside the courthouse in texas. he joins us. mark, that was one of the other points of outrage for some people is that hasan would be in a position to cross examine some of the very people he's accused of shooting down that day. he's not done so so far. what else are you seeing in court today? >> reporter: well, aside from the argument you were talking about, it will go to an appeals court, it was very dramatic testimony as soldiers and former soldiers took to the stand to describe what happened on november 5th, 2009, when 13 people were killed here, 31 were injured in this rampage shooting at a processing center. soldiers, former soldiers told of seeing others being shot, hearing them scream, watching them die, being shot themselves. it was very, very dramatic. one of them, staff sergeant michael davis, said that he heard a young woman screaming out, my baby, my baby, my baby. and we know that a 21-year-old soldier, francesca velez, private first class from chicago was shot and killed. she was nine weeks pregnant.